Comments on: REMODELING ELECTRIC BOX EXTENSION VIDEO

By: kurydebarcelona

kurydebarcelona — Thu, 13 May 2010 20:28:34 +0000

thanks bob (sais an argentine guy living in spain)

By: stevem7

stevem7 — Thu, 13 May 2010 19:30:40 +0000

Bob,

Thanks for posting this. I didn’t know these devices existed! A few questions though:

1) If I have metal new work boxes in, and I have to use the plastic “blue” boxes, how will this affect grounding issues? I prefer metal boxes wherever possible because I read somewhere about them being safer in case of a short, but perhaps you could clarify that for me.

By: stevem7

stevem7 — Thu, 13 May 2010 18:47:20 +0000

2nd question:

If the existing wiring is too short to pull my receptacle out, I’d hate to call an electrician out to do something as simple as wirenut a few short extensions out a couple of inches. If I do that myself, I know that the wirenuts and additional extensions cram a little more into the box itself, but I’m assuming that the extensions boxes you’re showing add a few cubic inches to the overall wiring box, so are these kosher code-wise?? I know code calls for an amount of space.
Thanx

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 17:59:54 +0000

In the states its common to use a common ground wire that runs back to panel to ground.3 wire ===Bob These are not designed to work with metal boxes.

By: sweeteedon

sweeteedon — Thu, 13 May 2010 17:19:12 +0000

I have aluminum wiring.
Pigtailing is something I dread for peace of mind.
What are your thoughts?

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 16:46:00 +0000

This is a perfect example of why I cannot recommend the typical homeowner or Diy’er doing any re-wiring of box without consulting a professional. Although I would not hesitate myself extending copper to copper,even thou I am not an electrician,not all people have seen as much as I have to have enough confidence to do the job properly.The fact that you have misgivings about the connection should tell you to consult a qualified electrician.Every person needs to know that he has limitations.===Bob

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 16:09:57 +0000

I generally do not recommend any re-wiring of electrical boxes by non-proffesionals even something that seems simple could become complicated quickly===Bob

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 15:49:32 +0000

What took you all the way to Spain?===Bob

By: kurydebarcelona

kurydebarcelona — Thu, 13 May 2010 14:54:20 +0000

to make a long story short I came in a sort of a non religious mission, but now is almost over and I am free to return home. I find your channel grate because I will bild a home in argentina, thanks again!

By: Blackseed1978

Blackseed1978 — Thu, 13 May 2010 14:33:14 +0000

I understand that you are using the non metallic boxes due to your locality is it possible maybe on some of your videos where you can show wiring using metallic boxes ?

By: Robkat3751

Robkat3751 — Thu, 13 May 2010 14:16:38 +0000

Code calls for space according the number of wires in a box. It is OK to add a pigtail as long as the pigtail and wirenut are inside the box. Wirenuts/splices outside of a box are not OK according to the NEC. Also a splice can be made if a wire run is to short by adding a box somewhere along the wall, basment or attic. The splice box has to have a blank cover and be assesible. You can not bury any box anywhere. Always consult the UBC, NEC or your local building codes.

By: Felipe1968

Felipe1968 — Thu, 13 May 2010 13:35:49 +0000

This is all well and good, Bob, but try to find one of those blue plastic boxes at any DIY store and you’re out of luck. Home Depot doesn’t carry them. Menards? No. Ace? No. Lowe’s? No. What’s the secret handshake?

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 12:41:34 +0000

Thats odd because I purchased mine at my local Home Depot,I suppose all stores do not carry all same stock items but I would imagine all electrical supply houses would.You can also look online to find providers in your area+++Bob

By: robodeath

robodeath — Thu, 13 May 2010 11:48:01 +0000

I found them at my lock Lowes and Home Depot. Do you like on the moon or something?

By: bigjim10011

bigjim10011 — Thu, 13 May 2010 11:12:49 +0000

how do you know if the extension will be the right size? are there different sizes for different thicknesses of drywall?

By: jcaimhigher

jcaimhigher — Thu, 13 May 2010 11:12:04 +0000

First, it depends on your local codes. In the midwest USA, many states require you to use only metal. You can use a ground wire if you’d like on some installs, or use the conduit as the ground. Again, too many codes to list here. WI you can use Romex and plastic boxes, IL you cannot. depends on where you live.
Second, If you don’t recommend a DIYer to do what you show int he video – then don’t show your video, it makes no sense. Us professionals don’t look at the videos to do the job.FWIW

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 11:02:00 +0000

FWIW Each person has their own comfort and knowledge level about basic repairs and minor remodeling. If you called a pro every time some part of your home project fell out of your area of expertize your project would get quite expensive(even if you could get a pro to show up and bid a small project). I showed a situation where this applies, not all situations,and I believe the people looking for assistance with this particular situation will find this useful+++Bob

By: WindEnergy7

WindEnergy7 — Thu, 13 May 2010 10:28:30 +0000

Nice video but why not using metal boxes? I prefer metal boxes.

By: ChavezEnergyCompany

ChavezEnergyCompany — Thu, 13 May 2010 09:42:29 +0000

Nice video I would recommend pig tailing rather than relying on receptacle device for continuation of hot and neutral conductors.

By: ChavezEnergyCompany

ChavezEnergyCompany — Thu, 13 May 2010 09:32:55 +0000

Video is okay for apprentices trainees to check out regardless of local codes it’s always nice to know all alternatives it helps one to become innovative. Remember metal is a great conductor of electricity, also depending where you live in example coastal region metal disinigrates or badly oxidizes, or ranches got rodents that’ll work their way past plastic and romex sheathing CA is one state where applying codes to enviroments can be complex how bout ranch on beachfront love those…

By: ChavezEnergyCompany

ChavezEnergyCompany — Thu, 13 May 2010 08:56:18 +0000

Great

By: ChavezEnergyCompany

ChavezEnergyCompany — Thu, 13 May 2010 08:14:11 +0000

Great job for your scenario. Pigtailing current carrying conductors would be nice

By: MrGingerDrummer

MrGingerDrummer — Thu, 13 May 2010 07:43:47 +0000

I believe code doesn’t allow both of the terminals to have more than one conductor fastened. I ALWAYS pigtail.

By: aimmap

aimmap — Thu, 13 May 2010 06:53:33 +0000

4:32 looks like its not level… optical illusion?

By: HomeRemodelWorkshop

HomeRemodelWorkshop — Thu, 13 May 2010 06:04:15 +0000

Tilted camera +++Bob