John C Maxwell –Leadership Keynote Speaker

What is John C leading anyway ??

A church ? I dont expect many leadership challenges there
This business he is in to is more about story telling. I have met people u worship this guy and they are only talkers .. they have stabbed ppl in the back, they have driven their companies and teams to the ground.

For me the challenge would be to do this to people who havent taken out time to come and sit and listen to me. That was the point I was going for.
Anyways I didnt mean to drag the church into this,the aim was questioning Maxwell’s credentials. I do know that people in church are there to get guidance and direction from someone they know understands religion more than them (priest,pastor).. and that does not appear to be a leadership challenge to me.But I am open to more comments or info.
Thanks

Our discussion so far has evolved to discussing ‘Leadership Challenge’ not just leadership. What I am saying is that people coming to you themselves and listening to you does not have a ‘Leader Challenge’ with it…the speaker can utter anything … it doesnt say anything of how good a leader/speaker that person is.

different types of leaders
1-The prepare to become leaders and are placed at places of leadership
2-That strive to become leaders
3-The ones that have consequences hand leadership to them.
Johnny falls in category 1, dad was a pastor so is he and now he thinks he is a leader coz everybody came to listen where they listened to his dad . A leader facing a challenge would have odds against him(a challenge to begin with), the sort who would take the first plunge and make others follow. contd…

hey ya mattie, earlier me and scott were discussing leadership challenges and what u said is somewhat already answered in the above messages.
The aim of bringing up johnny’s work as pastor was to specifically hit johnny’s work and what leadership challenges has he faced. now we are heading towards debating over the revered position of the pastor, from which i would decline.
So please raise ur glasses (orange juice in mine ) scott would u like to join us- “toast to good health and respect”